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just read the shoki, the real one, the good translation of the actual original (insofar as any of these texts have a good actual original)
some comments

the lack of an actual (world) creation myth is hella cool. You really get the sense that it's a local history and that the separation of heaven and earth was something happening in the background because of whatever celestial politics above the characters heads. Like, there's reference to a celestial hierachy that the founding characters are already several generations down on but everything that actually happens clearly concerns japan. The ongoing separation of heaven and earth is happening in real time and the distance is made reference to, but the actual cause of the seperation is never mentioned at all.

oni are actually female
the shikome (aka hisame) are in the original and in the alt. ver. they're the eight thunders (i.e. the oni) and it's clear that they're the same characters (the etymology of hisame is even similar, being ~storm)
particularly with the shikome/hisame clearly being identified as the primitive boogeymen in the same sense as the 'cover your navel when there's thunder' sense of oni as boogeymen, they're clearly the same thing (and very explictly female)

I'm amazed at the degree to which amaterasu is actually the authority and active ruler of the local heavenly realm (i.e. absolutely). Considering that all the pre-japanese-literature historical documents from the mainland talk about the ruler of the unified island as an empress it really seems like himiko etc. probably were real or at least considered to be real by all the chinese and later japanese (which is the same as being real).
Given the chinese history of sort of offshoot female rulers in the local environs (pirate queens etc.), this isn't really that surprising. It's still pretty interesting, especially since it's clear that it's a theocratic monarchy.

Izanami likewise doesn't flinch a fucking step. Izanagi literally shits himself and runs away and she equitably accepts the divorce, there's never an actual contention where they compete (in the line where he seals the entrance to stymie the shikome/oni, izanami has already been to where he is and left a message with the guard). Everyone else dies when they die and izanagi retires to be a minor shrine diety in his daughter's court but izanami continues to be on the offensive in their relationship and doesn't seem to give a fuck about having died at all. It's actually kind of shocking that characters who die are actually dead in an ancient mythology but she's the only exception.

Yomi is consistently characterized as a series of winding roads. Other than associations with a low place and distance from heaven, there's little to suggest that it's the underground/hell/gehenna-like place it's usually depicted as in modern fantasy or from the indians (or their descendants). If I was to be generous and assume that it is a cavern, the idea of a huge number of long and winding roads (and entrances clearly on the surface) suggest that it's more like a mass of long and winding "roads" as in tunnels in a cave system.
Given the only other inhabitants are found serving izanami after she's been there for like three days, it rather feels like her choosing to stay there when he retreats to heaven is paralleling amaterasu ruling over the local heaven in a sort of mirror now below to the above the land of reeds (=earthly japan).

There are a shit-ton of native gods and no really clear indication of where they came from. Are they the children of the islands? Were they already there? How? The islands are creating in the text, so clearly the native population have to spring up in this timeframe as well. An account is given of how domestic crops and some domestic animals came to be (and others are clearly imported) but insects (which are also identified with some of the untamed native gods that the celestials subjagate) were obviously already there, and the celestial gods are assisting their petitioners in resisting them.

The actual mythological section before the leviticus style mythologised history begins is pretty damn short, though the shoki was compiled as a historical document foremost. The myths are presented as transcribed-as-best-as-possible local tellings.
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extremely worth mentioning but the "ten multitudes" or whatever the count is conversation at the rock literally never happens, it's totally fake chinkshit from a later time
>>23044 (OP) 
did anyone read this?
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>>31344
I think of this one often and wonder about OP
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>If I was to be generous and assume that it is a cavern, the idea of a huge number of long and winding roads (and entrances clearly on the surface) suggest that it's more like a mass of long and winding "roads" as in tunnels in a cave system.
It's pretty clearly winding mountain roads. It's especially consistent with the trend much later in japan of associating mountain dwelling bandits with oni and other mythologized antagonists, but it's hard not to see the winding roads with their road wardens and native gods as being those mountain paths which the chinese can't police and which are controlled by some sort of native japanese faction (possibly loosely aligned behind a theocratic female ruler, which the central kingdom chinks wrote that japan was).
>>31345
These comments are mostly my observations from reading the routledge reprint of the william george ashton translation
http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=FB9D654EB3B6C608F7AF50970A3C3B7C
I was pretty drawn out into a line when I wrote it though
>>31344
Posts longer than three sentences really hurt your feelings, huh?
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>>31347
also did anyone read this?
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>>31348
What's up with your filenames, illiterate-chan?
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>>31349
huh
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>>31349
lol you're such a fucking tsundere, it's been days and I'm still in your head rent fucking FREE
just admit you want us to fugg like bunnies in heat already
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>>31357
>rent fucking FREE
Lmao you literally serenade me multiple times every day there hasn't been a more desperate attempt to book a hotel in history
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>>31358
hahahah this is so oddly specific it may as well be a hint how to win your heart as well as an invitation to meet, are you trying to tell me something here
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>>31361
>hahahah this is so oddly specific
I mean it's just an extension of the lodging metaphor. The original idea was around 'tenancy' but nothing came from that before I landed on hotels, which are not only accommodation but have an application process which precedes actual residence, which maintains the factual distinction that your residence proper in my head is a matter of ambiguity, since I dunno whether or not I'd say I actually think about your posts since I don't really when I'm not on the site.
>it may as well be a hint how to win your heart
I mean kinda, all the elements are there. You get posts like >>30822 because I want to be told that, how and why I'm wrong about things. You get posts like this OP because I want to establish and anchor things in my memory in like, discreet written form since I don't necessarily get useful structure or contextual connections (for the sake of memory, say) just saying it to myself out loud, plus written english is more my primary tongue than anything spoken anyhow, and I want to be able to recall this kind of thing in my future attempts at writing on and outside the site. I mean, it's a blog, I'm blogposting. And under all that is the same desire/need to be wrong, to learn if I'm wrong and improve my understanding or chain of logic.
The seeming facts that you're the second most active poster, do read, and by the language used do seem to be influenced by sort of cultural trends or like style propositions and stuff on the board all suggest that you're already in a defacto relationship of shared context with me.
>are you trying to tell me something here
Not really. It's an excuse to post and a flavor with which to do so.
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>>31362
someone should read this
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>>31370
lol your dere is overflowing, I wasn't really prepared for this
>>31370
It's so funny to me that he goes on such lengthy tangents as if it matters on this dead site and then fucking no one reads them 
Even being a braindead zoomie playing video games all day is less of a time waste than what he's doing
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>>31399
wtf are you doing here if you're not trying to waste time?
I've had a thought for the shoki anon at least once a month for 4 months
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