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Is the secret to femboymaxxing just taking low dose anti-androgens like finasteride which is already well proven to stop testosterone from being converted into DHT by 50% and this is what causes hair loss and rough skin because DHT serves no real purpose in men in adulthood other than to ugly them up and attach to your hair follicles and make them fall out.
Btw this isn't medical advice lol
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DHT is what causes beard growth actually, you know, just in case you don't want to be a clean shaven femboy as an adult male
I don't want to be a femboy but I don't want to bald either and I've heard finnasteride can make your dick stop working
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>>15599
i should have started taking this 15 years ago
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>>15602
Combine it with SSRIs and you're good to go
>>15599
That's one of the side effects at doses over 1mg, though it mostly only affects men who were already pretty low T to begin with, the FDA studies put it down as 2% of the population and that's why it got approved.
Also it's been found since then that doses of 0.1 and 0.25mg have nearly the same efficacy for reducing DHT production, but with far less risk of side effects, which is good because the most normie low effort way to get it costs like $30 for a 30 day supply, that could stretch to 120 days without losing effectiveness.
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Lots of the longevity supplements that encourage apoptosis are also androgen inhibitors e.g. reservatrol
I guess it's that foreverall babyfaced androgynous chinese mystic thing
>>15595 (OP) 
fluffy eboy hair
>>15606
what's the strat
panhandle a gp for a hair loss prescription?
Buy shit from india?
>That's one of the side effects at doses over 1mg, though it mostly only affects men who were already pretty low T to begin with
With regards to making your dick work, DHT seems to be locally active so it's probably just a case of men who happen to be low T lack virile cycles of hormone production i.e. they're bitchmade vegans and the like, so they're probably failing to produce the things finasteride is antagonizing in the first place
I mention this rather than the T because blocking T->DHT increases T for what should be obvious reasons

Why is it that seemingly every herbal solution that crudely apes something seems to cause blood thinning
What is the mechanism for blood thinning that's so beloved by nature
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sigh
where are the groomers when people are actually asking for advice?
>>23852
If you can't get a normal doctor to prescribe you fin and oral min then just get it online from an indian pharmacy, it's pretty cheap like $25 a year if you split the 5mg pills into quarters, oral min is way easier to get if u just take the liquid topical stuff orally, 4 drops is around 5mg if it's the 5% topical version.
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>>24081
>taking topical liquids, that target a local process that produces a weakly disseminating hormone, orally
something about this strikes me as retarded
>If you can't get a normal doctor to prescribe you fin and oral min
Yeah I just pretended to be worried about male pattern baldness. Turns out my country has a robust industry of phony teleconference docs so I spoke to some indian (imported) on a phone for like 3 minutes and he gave me a prescription, ~$28/month sans delivery.

According the the literature all three of the guys who got breast cancer on 1mg/day had existing factors that were likely to cause breast cancer. The gynecomastia may be a myth (probably from the literal coalition of beta males who tried to sue the producer basically for them being losers). Specifically, the article used by wikipedia
<Androgenetic Alopecia: An Evidence-Based Treatment Update | Supenya Varothai • Wilma F. Bergfeld | Springer International Publishing Switzerland 2014
Says
>Gynecomastia has been reported in rare cases [14].
Which is
<Rathnayake D, Sinclair R. Male androgenetic alopecia. Expert
Opin Pharmacother. 2010
Which says
>Gyneco-mastia, exfoliative dermatitis, testicular pain and depressive mood changes have been observed in rare cases [61]
Which is
<Rihimi-Ardabili B, Pourandarjani R, Habibollahi P, Mualeki A. | Finasteride-induced depression: a prospective study. | BMC Clin Pharmacol 2006;6:7
Which says
Well, I can't quote it, because it literally doesn't mention breasts, gynecomastia, or any symptoms.
However, in a brilliant stroke of scientific literature, [60] DOES (and the part 60 is quoted for seems to be from 61)
<Wilton L, Pearce G, Edet E, et al. | The safety of finasteride used in benign prostatic hypertrophy: a non-interventional observational cohort study in 14,772 patients. Br J Urol 1996;78:379-84
>The most notable event detected by this scrutiny was gynaecomastia, which had been reported as an event in 42 patients. Other breast disorders had been reported in 17 patients, and mastalgia in a further four.
>To assess whether gynaecomastia was an adverse event associated with the use of finasteride, the event data in 41  completed PEM studies were examined for reports of gynaecomastia. Only 17 of these 41 studies had gynaecomastia reported as an event during treatment with the drug being monitored. A comparison of the rates of gynaecomastia per 1000 patient-months of exposure in these 17 drugs and finasteride is given in Table 1. After follow-up of the original reports there were 46 cases of gynaecomastia, 10 cases of breast disorder and two cases of mastalgia. As shown in Table 2, the gynaecomastia resolved on drug withdrawal (dechallenge) in 15 of the 31 men in whom finasteride was given in the absence of any other relevant concomitant therapy.
While this seems alarming, to quote wikipedia
>Gynecomastia is the most common benign disorder of the male breast tissue and affects 35% of men
Finasteride does raise serum testosterone, but it presumably lowers effective androgen activtivty in the breast by preventing DHT formation (which is more active). I can imagine if you're on the edge of being a fat moobed bitch then this could tip you over.
Not really a threat that's applicable to human beings, though.
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>I can imagine if you're on the edge of being a fat moobed bitch then this could tip you over.
Could also just be a consequence of induced depression also, given the supermassive incidence rate of mantits and the number of losers who get sad over muh dick
(it's actually chemically supported depression by suppression of pregslut retardation hormone that's used to permanently sedate the baby)

Honestly, if we assume (and this is an assumption with afaik no proof for or against) that your skeleton etc. are maintained as masculine by testosterone and not DHT (possibly case studies on like female athletes doping T might indicate this) then finasteride may have no side effects which aren't desirable at hairloss doses
>>15595 (OP) 
i ordered dht cream
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>>24085
it's gonna make you go bald tho
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>>24082
men are too acutely aware of their own breasts, don't go to r/gynecomastia, it's full of utterly insecure men posting normal chest pics and thinking they have gyno, and plastic surgeons are more than happy to take advantage of their insecurities, it's disgusting.

That 30% quote sounds about right when you consider 30% of men are morbidly obese and having fat tiddies is normal when youre overweight.
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>>24082
Also with topical minoxidil, a lot of doctors don't like prescribing oral min because of the potential side effects (pericardial effusion and pedal edema) at doses used for hypertension, topical min when it's the liquid version is safe to take orally and very cheap when taken this way, a single 1 month 60ml bottle will last for 600 doses and likely expire if you bought a normal amount like a 6 month supply.
Not everyone responds to topical min because they might be missing some enzymes in their scalp but everyone has these same enzymes in their liver so oral always works wonders.

Very few people see more than 20% regrowth of lost hair on finasteride, it mostly just locks in what you already have, low dose minoxidil will absolutely reverse hair loss on men as long as their scalp isn't completely barren and shiny, vellus hairs will turn terminal again, though gains made with min will need min forever to keep those new hairs that sprouted with fin.
I've been taking 5mg daily and it's made my temples start growing back even though I haven't had hair there in years.
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>>24097
>men are too acutely aware of their own breasts
I'd say they're not enough.
If you're a gross disgusting foodbeast (and insecure about it) you're literally not even a sapient being.
>That 30% quote sounds about right when you consider 30% of men are morbidly obese and having fat tiddies is normal when youre overweight.
Yeah. It's a big limitation of this sort of review study that you're just accepting the dignoses statistics from clinic doctors and can't question if they're misdiagnosed cases of adipomastia etc. Again with the condition resolving on drug withdrawal, it really seems likely that it was just balding losers getting fat and losing the weight off the drug.
>>24099
tbqh I'd been reading min as ministration, not minoxidil, and thought you were trying to hit the prostate and balls with topical (scalpI) finasteride applied to your tongue
>Very few people see more than 20% regrowth of lost hair on finasteride
That's not what the literature says
Also, who cares? Not even manface in the OP is trying to regrow lost hair
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>>24096
woooooo
>>24117
i have the theory that minoxidil can massively increase your hair density and volume even if you're not at risk of balding, giving you fluffy eboy hair like OP
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>>24121
>i have the theory that minoxidil can massively increase your hair density and volume even if you're not at risk of balding
tbqh I think that rogaine works for someone is an indication that they are currently balding
that's just what hair looks like
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